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Kuidas parandada kapuutsiga käte abil pidurdamist?
greenoldman
2018-06-26 21:38:27 UTC
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I have gravel bike for around 3 months now with mechanical disc brakes and one thing I have problems with is braking. When I ride on drops (which I do rarely) I can brake well -- I pull the brake lever by its bottom end so I can even lock the wheel.

However with hands on hoods I cannot reach the far end of the lever so I have two fingers close to rotation axis of the lever. As the effect I can pull the lever slightly but not to such degree as riding on drops -- as the effect I am slowing down but not really stopping, I cannot execute emergency stop for example.

Which of course worries me. So is there some trick I didn't figure out? Or there some levers with different shape which help braking on hoods?

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Kas teil on väikesed käed? (Tõsine küsimus) See võib olla kangide enda haardeprobleem
@Criggie, Ma kannan tüüpiliselt L kindaid, pikkus keskmise sõrme ja randmeni on 19,5 cm. Siiani oli mulje, et mul on tavalised käed, ainult kitsad randmed (kuid siin nad ei mängi rolli).
Kas pidurdate eesmise või tagumise piduriga? Kui pidurdate tagumise piduriga, võib põhjuseks olla teie jalgratta kaalu tasakaal. Teie koht on väga kaugel ees.
@gschenk, mõlemad - alustan rohkem tagant, et aeglustada, ja siis pidurdan libisemise vältimiseks rohkem esiosaga. Mis puudutab istet, siis võib-olla valisin ratta vale suuruse, ma ei tea, kuid ma liigutasin seda edasi, et saada põlved üle pedaalide keskosa (põhiline reguleerimine).
@greenoldman Tagumine pidur on vähem efektiivne kui eesmine; kapuutsid annavad teile vähem hooba kui tilgad. Nii et ühendate mõlema maailma halvima. Lisaks käte asendi reguleerimisele peaksite proovima ka rohkem kasutada esipidurit kui te. Te ei kavatse trellidest üle minna, kui te ei tõmba seda liiga tugevalt. Enamikus olukordades maanteel on mõlema piduriga võrdselt ja samaaegselt pidurdamine täiesti ohutu.
@greenoldman * Liigutasin seda edasi, et saada põlved üle pedaalide keskele * Loe seda: http://www.peterwhitecycles.com/fitting.php Eriti see osa, mis puudutab "põlve üle pedaalitelje". Kokkuvõte: ära vaeva sellega. Saate oma vormi õigeks, muretsemata selle pärast, kus põlvi pedaalidega võrreldakse. Kas olete kunagi näinud lamavat sõitjat, kelle põlved on üle pedaalide?
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Rider_X
2018-06-26 22:05:33 UTC
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Braking is always stronger from the drops than the hoods, as you noted only your lower fingers have mechanical advantage when braking from the hoods, when braking from the drops you have much better mechanical advantage for all your fingers.

That said, when properly set up, you should have no problems locking up both wheels on gravel from the hoods. You should also have no problem locking up the rear on asphalt.

Ergonomics

There are a lot of factors that can affect brake effectiveness, how you set up your handlebar (ergonomics) can be one major component. These include:

  • Brake hood position: if the hoods are angled down, or the brake hoods and bars are angled down, it will be harder to brake effectively from the hoods. You will however be able to brake effectively from the drops.
  • Handle bar reach: If the reach is set too far it can make braking difficult to get a firm grasp on your brakes from either the hood or drop position.
  • Bar height - If your handle bars are too low you may also find it hard to brake, raising the bars can improve your reach as well as making it easier to brake from the drops.
  • Brake reach adjustment: Many road shifter/brake (i.e., brifters) come with reach adjustments which can be used to shorten the reach slightly.
  • Brake hood ergonomics: Each brand has slightly different ergonomics, and at times slightly different pivot locations for the brake lever. The ergonomics has also changed over time. I personally found mid 2000 Shimano brifters never braked well from the hoods, newer Shimano ergonomic design has improved this greatly, but some of the lower tier models still use the old design and pivot point location.

Observing some pictures of your set-up and your set-up in use would help

Suur aitäh, Sora kuulub vist madalama taseme kategooriasse :-) Laadisin pildi üles oma rattaga.
@greenoldman vanemal Soral oli see ergonoomiline probleem, kuid uuem Sora (mis on teie rattal) kasutab uuemat vormifaktorit, millel on parem piduri ergonoomika. Teie käepideme ja kapoti seadistus näeb samuti hea välja ja teil on hea kvaliteediga mehaanilised nihikud. Miski ei hüppa minu poole probleemi põhjustajana.
Paluge kohalikul rattapoel kontrollida, kas teie briifritele on juba paigaldatud aluspinnad. Nagu @ Rider_X mainis, paigutavad need hoovad nii, et algus- või pidurdusasend oleks lati lähemal. See suurendab hooba pigistades võimendust. See võib nõuda kaablite lohistamise vältimiseks reguleerimist.
Mul on hiljuti sora ja suured käed ning vaikeseadistusega on käeulatus umbes sama palju, kui ma kapuutsidest sooviksin (ilmselgelt on ka ribadel midagi). Mind piirab üldiselt see, kui kõvasti tahan pidurdada
Criggie
2018-06-27 09:30:58 UTC
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Looks like quite an upright seating position, so your shoulders are high and your arms are probably straight while riding. Also your saddle is aggressively forward, so that raises your shoulders even more. Quite an upright position is the root cause of your poor braking on the hoods.

First thing to try is bend your elbows which will lower your face. This will allow the fingers on the hoods to reach a bit further down the levers.

Second suggestion - the hoods look to be angled up a bit, like cowhorns. Personally I'd prefer the top of the hoods to continue the horizontal line from the sides of the handlebars. That would mean untaping the bars, sliding the levers around the curve a bit, retighten, and retape the bars. As a quick test though, you could loosen the bar/stem bolt/s and rotate the bars a wee bit, but straighten them up again if you do the retape.

Why? Picture your normal riding/braking position on the hoods. Is the brake lever closer to parallel with your index finger, or is it closer to parallel with your knuckles?

Ideally you want your forearms level, elbows bent, and brake levers approximately in-line with your knuckle line.

Kapuutside üles nurkimine toimib paremini püstiasendis. Kui teil on palju latti sadulasse laskmiseks, töötavad horisondi kapuutsid paremini.
@Rider_X "töötab paremini", hoiatades halva nurga all pidurihoobasid. Kui soovitav on püstiasend, võib-olla peab OP otsima katete katkestushoobasid?
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